I think it’s time to adjust your tin foil hat…

Your assertions are ludacris. One person is not responsible for the ENTIRE civil rights movement. If I talk about Jesse Jackson’s role in the civil rights movement does that diminish King’s role? No. Furthermore she didn’t say King was some random guy who had nothing to do with the civil rights movement. IN FACT, she credits it as being King’s dream. She just said it took Johnson to pass the legislation. DUH. King’s not a politician. Social movements are at their very core movements to get legislation passed. But social movements are not enough. They’re not legislators.

Will you tell me why its racist, or whatever you’re calling it, for Clinton to point this out?

I posted more about this in a new entry.

With Mark Penn, cocacine,etc. If you write about doing drugs in your memoir don’t be appauled when people bring up the fact that Republicans, who lied about a war hero, might bring it up. Obama did do drugs, which shouldn’t disqualify him from being president, but pointing out what YOU, Obama, said is fair game.

And finally, you’re completely over hyping what Clinton said regarding Mandela. As the first commentor in the thread, someone who doesn’t like Clinton, he’s just hyping up his wife like anyone would do or does. Its called hyperbole. It’s like when I say “today was the worst day ever”. Its not an absolute its just rhetoric.

It seems to me that you have a strong disposition against Clinton, or for Obama, and you’re taking anything you can find and finding ways to make it anti Clinton. I might be a Clinton supporter but I still base my interpretation on facts, analysis and warrants, rather than biased speculation

Do you defend Bill’s notion that Hillary is tougher than Nelson Mandela?

Are you unable to defend Jackson’s statement?

Thanks for coming to my blog, but seriously, Learn to read. Clinton doesn’t say anything about LBJ being soly responsble for the civil rights movement. She says that it took LBJ passing the civil rights act for the civil rights movement to have their goals realized. And as I said before, duh. Social movements don’t pass laws, politicians do.

And i’m so tired of Obama supporters citing the war as a representation of all of Obama’s experience and judgement. If Obama has such good judgement then why did he vote to support the war he was so adamantly opposed to?

Thanks for your comments.

First, I don’t blindly love any candidate. But I do dislike Barack Obama’s shallowness. (Though as I say, we have a great field of candidates and any of them is better than bush on is best day)

Second, many of the allegedly insensitive comments attributed to the Clinton’s were taken out of context. For example, the JFK/MLK/LBJ comment was in direct response to a reporter asking Clinton how she felt about Obama citing MLK in his speeches as proof that hope is important. Josh Marshall from TPM points this out:

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/063023.php

Third, She’s right. Obviously I’m biased somewhat but I truly do believe in that while idealism is important for vision, it takes pragmatism to transform vision into reality. No doubt MLK helped foster a legendary movement but the truth is, and let me just say whats unpopular to say, leaders don’t pass legislation politicians do. This is not to discredit leaders of social movements or especially MLK, but lets not forget that even with this giant social movement it still took a political battle of epic proportions to get civil rights legislation passed. A battle SO big that it caused the entire bloc of southern democrats to break off and become republicans, a party realignment that STILL effects us today. Hope is amazing but pragmatic hard work is equally if not more important in some regards.

Furthermore, I’m voting for a president, a commandar-in-chief if you will, not a social movement leader. I’ve seen too many hope filled ideas fall short because we didn’t have someone with the political savy to get things done. And also, accuse me of playing the terrorism/fear card if you will, but I want a president who knows how to deal with people who want to kill Americans. I’m not saying Obama can’t, he has a great team of advisors, but Clinton runs circles around him in this area. It’s like Apollo Creed said to Rocky “You fight great but I’m a great fighter” Clinton is a great fighter

Fourth, Last time I checked fairy tale and kid weren’t some racial code words. If we’re to assume these words were intended to attack anything, it’s Obama’s youthful exuberence for his “hope movement”